Thanks for the info vicki.
I'm presently touring the U.S., but have noted the date in my Calendar for when I get back to the Maritimes.
thanks..
Special K
hello to all my friends, .
the fifth estate will be rerunning their story on the problems within the jw faith on "sept 3 /03 at 9pm.".
i know that some of you missed it last january, so now you will have a chance to see the program, they will be following it with an update on my trial and how the jw's are coming after me for costs.
Thanks for the info vicki.
I'm presently touring the U.S., but have noted the date in my Calendar for when I get back to the Maritimes.
thanks..
Special K
because i hate gardening !!!.
after many, many weeks or months of hard labour, clearing away 3 or 4 skips worth of rubble from paths, sheds and greenhouses, digging over soil and leveling it we finally layed our turf today!.
i am knackered and don't even have any beer in the house .
It all looks WONDERFUL from where I'm sitting at the computer chair.
Simon and Angharad... GOOD JOB!
I think that you both deserve the "Robomow" and the "Roomba Vac" just as a reward for all the work you have put into this outdoor living space.
I'm sure you and your family and friends will enjoy your new space. It looks very inviting.
and thank you for modeling for us.
Your post, shows to me, that a day will come when other ones of us here on the forum will be able to put some of these stresses of leaving the J.W.'s in the past and start living again.
A good thought, is that we will eventually be able to get back to concentrating on living life in the forward motion and I think, for me, that is what your post and pictures are showing that you are doing.
Gardening as well has a very "grounding" effect as well as a sense of accomplishment.
Enjoy your garden
sincerely
Special K
Hey Lady lee.
I guess our talk about these maps on chat the other day sparked this good idea!
Go for it.
Special K.... Nova Scotia, Canada
yesterday evening i took jennie & jackson to journey of hope, which is a grief support group for families who have lost loved ones, aimed particularly at the children.
i was thinking we might be past the need to go, because jennie & jackson seemed to be doing well, and i was feeling better about dad's death.
the children were asked to draw pictures: on one side of the paper they were to draw the bad things that happened last year, and on the other side of the paper what they wanted to be good or fix this year.. when my group joined the others downstairs, jennie ran to me and said jackson was crying and couldn't stop.
Hey Cruzenheart'
You said..
"I enjoyed being able to talk about anything with them without feeling like I had to direct their beliefs in any particular way. No guilt, no pressure, not anxiety"
This gives me hope! Hope that more parents,like yourself, will allow their children a free mind.
A free mind is required to explore our inner thoughts and emotions.
A free mind is needed to live in conjuction with who we are..
A free mind (in this instance) is needed to express grief and pain of loss of someone who has been affecting them in a positive way..but is now, not there anymore.
Emotions are to be expressed and for your kids, you helped them express these in a kind, gentle and appropriate way.
You made a safe haven for them to release their pain
A truly special mom you are.
all my best
Special K
my mother had ovarian cancer, her mother died of breast cancer, one of my father's sisters had colon cancer.
i had bleeding every two weeks for about a year myself, and now i have abdominal swelling and kidney pain, difficulty urinating(been blaming the lupus--but none of the tests are showing anything wrong!
) i look like i am pregnant the swelling is so bad.. i am having this test done next thursday.
Hey Ravyn:
The server change and family demands have kept me from the forum for a bit..
I send to you lots of "HUGS".. and "CARING THOUGHTS" and I will be all waiting to hear how you make out with all these health issues.
It seems I meet more and more people on this forum who have extremely keen minds like you.. and then our darn bodies let us down in some way.
Nuture yourself, let others nurture you as well.
This is a stressful time for you. I hope you can find something to distract yourself from the thoughts that are obviously running through your mind. Pick up a good book something thats captivating for you.
thinking of you
special K
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when you were still faithful to the borg, did you shun family or other people, because of the watchtower ???.
when you look back now, what goes through your mind ??
Yes, I shunned ones who were disfellowshipped in my congregation when I was still a J.W..
We all were under the same delusional spell that this was some kind of loving thing to do.
However, when the first teenager I knew was disfellowshipped, it didn't sit so well with me. How can you help and guide children if you won't even say hello to them. I guess I couldn't see any love in it anymore.
The only thing I did do that comforted me somewhat is that if I met a disfellowshipped person I would look them right in the eye and give them a big smile and say hi as I passed.
I also did not stay away from a d'fd persons place of business. I would go to their place of business and talk to them about whatever it was I wished to buy.
since I myself have been disfellowshipped since then, I find that I am shunned BIG TIME!..
I know from reading on the forum, that alot depends on the culture of the particular congregation you are in. some carry it to the extreme letter of the law and then in another congregation somewhere else it isn't as severe a cutting off.
Maybe it also has to do with the cultural background of the area where I live. Most who live in this area were originally from alot of German descent. I wonder if that has some bearing on things.
anyways.. that is how it was for me
The J.W. scum over my eyes was just as thick and seemingly as impenetratable as many J.W.'s you meet today.
Special K
Holy cow.!!!!! I go out for the afternoon and when I come home the world has gone to hell in a handbasket? What the heck is going on????
50 million people with no power, no air conditioning, no elevators,
"NO TIM HORTON"S COFFEE"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Washington, New York, Toronto, all blacked out.
Temperature reaching 35 degrees celius.. drink lots of water and sleep in your basements if you need to to keep cool
Red cross is passsing out thousands of bottles of water.
National guard has agreed to come in to New York because of fears of looting.
Cause now believed to be from a fire and Niagara Power plant on U.S. side of border causing a cascading effect.
Not much power in Ottawa except for places being supplied by power from Quebec ( I guess that means Scully is out of touch)
President Bush is going to be coming on T.V. in the next hour to talk to the people.
All airports are down in major centers
The tunnel between Detroit and Canadian Border has been shut down re no ventilation within the tunnel.
Back ups at border crossings betwoeen U.S. and Canada.
Trains shut down, subways shut down.
Pearson International in Toronto redirecting flights to other areas to land.
Downtown Toronto in gridlock chaos. Blackout occurred during 4 pm rushhour. People can't get home.
I'm glad ShielaM called Rayzorblade and he is okay.
Kitchener, Burlington and Guelph in Ontario have their power back now.
I'm going to listen to President Bush..
Special K
last week my lawyer appealed the judges decision , based on the fact that we are not sure what will happen with costs.
now that we have appealed, the watchtower also cross appealed with 10 pages of why the "judge erred".
looks like this has openned a whole can of worms.
I got your pm. needs_alot
thanks
Special K
what made you question and look into the wts?
what was the back breaker so to speak?
and, did the information you found out take a while to sink in, or did you believe it right away?.
Denial cult would be about right...Frannie..
head in the sand band....
SK
last week my lawyer appealed the judges decision , based on the fact that we are not sure what will happen with costs.
now that we have appealed, the watchtower also cross appealed with 10 pages of why the "judge erred".
looks like this has openned a whole can of worms.
Hi vicky
I just wanted to say again that I admire your courage...
To most people, the fact that some so called "worldly people", at a family reunion, are having heated discussions on what you are going through because they have been reading about your case in the newspapers.. would seem trivial.
But for you, I consider my writing and telling you about this, as giving you very positive feedback about how your case is reaching out and touching peoples emotions in a very positive way.
In fact, .. because of reading these posts of yours on the forum.. it lead me to want to know about you and what had happened .. so.. a day or so ago, I went to Silent Lambs and read your whole transcript of the trial.
The reading of the transcript and what you have posted here.. as well as our few pm's back and forth has moved me more than words can ever express.
Tonight, as I responded to a topic on the forum called....
"A Minimus type Question"
As I was typing a response to that.. all of a sudden my true feelings about Jehovah's Witnesses and what sparked me leaving them broiled over. It broiled over into an admittance to myself as to why I actually did finally leave the WT Society.
It was a revelation for me to explore this in my mind and realize the events that lead up to me questioning Jehovah's Witnesses.. and questioning where the heck is the boundary line between the elders and God. .. and who has the power, and more importantly, who should not have the power.
and now I find it overwhelming to my psyche to read my thoughts on the post that I made... not only to you but also on the topic that I told you about..
After you read my post on that,,.. I want you personally to understand how your strong convictions to seek justice when at times it may seem that the whole thing might come tumbling down.. has not been in vain.. and it never will be in vain..
Because you.. have helped me...
thanks
love
Special K